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by Bill Seng
But Gideon told them, ‘I will not rule over you, nor will my son rule over you. The Lord will rule over you.’” ~Judges 8:22-23 The lust for power is an enticing lure. In a political environment like today’s, it is hard to imagine that anyone would have the audacity, courage, or strength of resolve to refuse an opportunity to seize control over a nation. It is slightly disheartening to think that in order for someone to run for president, he or she must take the initiative to run for that office. What I mean by this is that you must believe that you are the best person for the job. Have you ever thought about the audacity it takes to run for president? Our first president (in the United States) did not have such a reputation. George Washington was a man renowned for his humility. Now, it has been said that he refused an offer to become the king of the United States, but there are credible sources that would bring this claim into question, thus I will exclude it from one of his noble acts as a leader. What is indisputable is that Washington willingly relinquished power after the Revolutionary War. Considering the dictators that have seized power through force, this alone says that he was a man of tremendous character. Perhaps even more impressive is that he chose to not pursue a third term as President of the United States, despite the temptation to retain power. George Washington knew that he was unworthy of power and that any delusion to believe otherwise would be the first step toward a corrupt mind. Gideon refused to receive the position of kingship over the Israelites after he had scored a miraculous (literally) victory over the Midianites and their allies. When he was offered the authority to rule, he responded with an answer you wish the Israelites would have taken to heart in the days of Samuel the prophet. At that time, the Israelites demanded that Samuel the prophet anoint the first king over Israel. He was troubled by the request, but God consented. Their response to Samuel’s pleas was, “No! … We want a king over us. Then we will be like all of the other nations, with a king to lead us and go out before us and fight our battles” (1 Samuel 8:19-20). Although it is not evident in the response of the Israelites in the day of Samuel, it is evident in the day of Gideon that the demand for a king actually sprouted from idolatry. Gideon’s response to the Israelites was, “The Lord will rule over you” (Judges 8:23). God is King. Why do you have a need for a human to rule over you? You silly people. In fact, if you study ancient history, you will notice that time and time again when an individual is appointed king over any group of people, that person will often be considered a god. This was evident in Egypt, Babylon, and even Greece and Rome. We might not think of our leaders in America as gods, but we can just as easily idolize them. We often fall into the trap of thinking that our chief executive (the president) will solve all of our problems. In 1 Samuel 8, the Israelites state that the king will fight their battles for them; evidently they forgot that their sons would be the soldiers of the king. Leaders and rulers will always disappoint us if they and we forget where their power is derived from. No one has power because of how good or amazing he or she is. God alone grants power to the authorities of this world. George Washington had this figured out and Gideon almost had it figured out. Unfortunately for Gideon and the Israelites, the sin of the nation would not be satisfied until an idol was made and then worshipped. Gideon delivered this request to the Israelites unintentionally by forging an ephod that the entire nation worshipped. Verse 27 records that Gideon and his family were ensnared by idol worship of the ephod. What a disappointment after such a great victory. Even if you are not a leader according to an official position you occupy, in the Lord’s family we all occupy the position of priests. Thus we are all leaders to someone and need to live lives of humility, always remembering that our position of children of God is only granted through the grace of God. Grace is not grace unless it is undeserved. We should, therefore, be eternally grateful and humbled at the great gift that God has given us.
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by Bill Seng
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Mark: “Do you have a hard time getting your husband to do what you ask him to do?”
Woman 1: “Pastor, you have no idea…” (she gives an example).
Mark: “How many times did you ask him to do that?”
Woman 1: “Once.”
Mark: “Why didn’t you ask him a second time?”
Woman 1: “I shouldn’t have to.” Mark: “Do you have a hard time getting your husband to do what you ask him to do?”
Woman 2: “Pastor, you have no idea…” (she gives an example).
Mark: “How many times did you ask him to do that?”
Woman 2: “Once.”
Mark: “Why didn’t you ask him a second time?”
Woman 2: “I shouldn’t have to.” Mark: “Do you have a hard time getting your husband to do what you ask him to do?”
Woman 3: “Pastor, you have no idea…” (she gives an example).
Mark: “How many times did you ask him to do that?”
Woman 3: “Once.”
Mark: “Why didn’t you ask him a second time?”
Woman 3: “I shouldn’t have to.” Mark’s take away lesson from this illustration: Women, you have to ask your husband more than once! Now, in relation to Judges, there is this pattern of God disciplining his people over and over again. He blesses them and they are blessed, they rebel and fall into sin, they get into trouble, God shows them grace and rescues them. This happens over and over. Just like men, mankind is a hard-headed creation! It takes multiple rounds of discipline and reminders to get us to obey God’s laws. We are able to display obedience quicker, but bad habits die hard. Hebrews 12 cites Proverbs and Psalms when its author wrote, “My son, do not regard lightly the discipline of the Lord, nor be weary when reproved by him. For the Lord disciplines the one he loves, and chastises every son whom he receives” (verses 5-6). When we get trapped in sin, we can count on God to discipline us. Often times we repent, but we then fall into the same old trap with our sin. In those cases, we can expect God to discipline us again. He is patient with us and we need to be quick to learn from his discipline and take heart in that God only disciplines us because he loves us. That is why he allowed Israel, in its sin, to suffer oppression. That is why he allows us to suffer hardship, whether we are growing in faith or overcoming sin.
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~Judges 5:20-21 Songs often commemorate great acts of courage. Deborah and Barak were full of joy after defeating their enemies, and the song they composed commemorated the event. Against overwhelming odds, Israel defeated the foreign armies and restored peace to their nation. Two hundred years ago, a man named Francis Scott Key stood outside of Baltimore Harbor and watched the British shell Fort McHenry with their artillery. For 24 hours, the British bombarded the military installment that was manned by 1,000 soldiers who were unable to retaliate due to the British navy’s overwhelmingly powerful artillery. At the end of the day and the beginning of the next, it was expected that there would be a pile of corpses and a white flag waving in the air. As the story goes, the British were disheartened to see that they had only killed four American soldiers and that the American flag still stood flying over Fort McHenry. Francis Scott Key was inspired by the sight and recalled the events he had witnessed. He wrote a poem called “Defence of Fort McHenry.” The poem was set to music and it was then renamed “The Star Spangled Banner.” Although it is our national anthem here in the United States, it does contain some religiously inspired lyrics that are not included in the one verse (the first verse) that is typically sung at events. Verse four reads: Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved homes and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heaven-rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave! When we are faced with impossible odds, we can only give glory to God when we pull through. 1 Samuel 2:9 reads, “It is not by strength that one prevails.” Human understanding cannot explain the military victories that were claimed either in the ancient times of Israel or at the founding of this nation. When we place our trust in God, we need not fear boasting because he makes it clear that we have nothing to boast about except for him. God has strength when we do not. God is bigger than all of our enemies. And it is he who decides the outcome of wars, whether we are comfortable with that or not. When a nation turns to him, it will write its own anthems to praise God for his awesome works. Here are some additional links for more information on this topic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Star-Spangled_Banner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hZe8CPGA1E
http://www.harisingh.com/newsMemorialAnthem.htm
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I, even I, will sing to the Lord;
I will praise the Lord, the God of Israel, in song.” ~Judges 5:2 The Song of Deborah and Barak can either be seen as a marvelous work of art, or a bizarre song praising brutal acts of bloodshed. Our culture is definitely squeamish when it comes to the idea of war. A famous commentator puts it the best, “War is about breaking things and killing people.” When you get down to it, that’s about right. But the idea that killing is praiseworthy just sounds so strange to our 21st century Christian ears. Would the Song of Deborah be condemned by the New Testament Church? When we turn to the words of Jesus, it sounds clear that we should not condone the act of killing anyone. He said not to resist evil, but if someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other (Matthew 5:39). When the soldiers were going to take Jesus into custody, he told his disciples to stand down and that if it was his desire he could have called down 12 legions of angels to kill his attackers (Matthew 26:53). He didn’t do that. What’s more, he did not even lash out in anger when he was hanged on the cross; instead he pleaded for the forgiveness of those who did it to him (Luke 23:34). The Gospel message sounds 100% anti-violence. But what do we do with the instruction from John the Baptist when he was asked by soldiers what conduct they ought to practice? John told them to serve honestly. He did not tell them to depart from his service as a soldier (Luke 3:14). This is because there are two dimensions in terms of the violence/non-violence discussion as the Bible details it. The first of which is on the personal level. The personal level is what Jesus is most clearly referring to. If you pay close attention to his teachings, he is not addressing matters of war. Rather, he is addressing personal relationships. War is a political matter. The political dimension is the second dimension, and I believe the Bible makes it clear that war is condoned as a matter of national security and sometimes expansion. When we look at all of the war that happened in the Old Testament, we have to acknowledge the reality that Israel had become a political power and, although they were achieving God’s will, the national identity of any nation is rooted in politics. Even though the government of Old Testament Israel was not the same government system that the New Testament Church had to deal with, one thing it did share in common with the Roman government was that it was set in place by God. When Peter commented on the role of the state in relation to people’s lives, he stated that the government is appointed to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right (1 Peter 2:14). God has granted government the authority to judge between right and wrong and to punish those who act in an ungodly manner. In terms of war, as I mentioned earlier, it serves for two purposes: national security and expansion. National security is the type of war we feel most comfortable with because it does not step on anyone’s toes and it is merely beating back oppressive forces. However, expansion has served its purposes in the past, particularly for the nation of Israel. I’m going to avoid elaborating on that for now, because there is an underlying aspect of these two purposes that only God knows of: judgment. War is so often used as a judgment, and when Barak and Deborah marched out onto the battlefield, God was casting judgment upon the other nations by using Israel as his instrument. The same thing has happened to Israel by the hand of the Babylonians. War is a very complicated thing! Should we praise warriors and bloodshed? Maybe to simplify my answer, let me rephrase this: Can people do noble things through war? Yes! I think of the soldiers in the United States military. The more time that passes, the more respect I have for them. They have chosen to sacrifice years out of their lives to serve our country and to preserve the freedoms that we get to enjoy. That in itself is a very noble deed. It is only right that we honor them through holidays like Veterans Day, Memorial Day, and the Fourth of July. The Song of Deborah and Barak might sound strange to our ears, but back then it may have sounded much like the Stars and Stripes Forever to them.
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by Bill Seng
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